I saw this hillbilly who likes the National Rifle Association, country music and Republican join the Evangelical Lutheran Church of America which is the most Marxist progressive church in the United States and baptizes his kids in it. It sheds members like clockwork. I personally haven't been inside any ELCA church since October 1999 and I tend to stay away from them like the plague. Why hillbillies join the ELCA is beyond me other then he's a moron. What I can't figure out is why this ex-Catholic hillbilly doesn't join a Catholic church.
A new commenter named El Cid popped up in my Rosie O'Donnell post, so I
followed his link and read through his posts. A fellow Lutheran, he put
this article up two weeks ago. I found it fascinating. I still think
that one of the greatest dramas that's unfolding in the Christian church
is what to do about homosexuals. In the OT God said to kill them. In
the NT Paul continues to say that it's immoral, but Christ let the
adulteress go, and said, "Let the one who has not sinned throw the first
stone." Does this mean the throne has been stowed? That there will no
longer be hierarchy of sin, and that anything goes?
There is no
clarity within the ELCA church on this topic. And the ELCA has been
riven. Many women are leaving the traditional mainline churches on the
charge that they are sexist. Even Muslim women are leaving the mosques
on this charge (I have two students who privately informed me of this
decision). How to be inclusive, and yet retain the authority of
scripture? The churches and mosques are being riven, but people are
often left in a no-man's land between tradition and so-called progress
-- without any authority other than the MSM.
The ELCA voted
in 2009 to ordain homosexual pastors and the flight from the church has
been staggering. While the ELCA had a budget of 88 million in 2008,
the money coming in this year has been less than half of that amount
(about forty million). Some of this can be attributed to the downturn in
the economy. But there is also a wholesale flight of congregants and
congregations to other denominations and precincts. People are voting
with their soles.
What expectations ought we to have on entering a
church? What expectations should people have a right to expect? How
is it that when a church (or any institution) doesn't contribute that
which is expected, that those who are then disappointed, will leave?
Suffice it to say that this is an exodus like that from Egypt under
Moses. People are looking for different leaders, and a way of life that
includes a tight family, a mom and dad, and their respective children.
The ELCA leadership has condoned not just masturbation, but also S
& M, and other practices. Lord love a duck. There has been no
official sanction regarding bestiality but expect it to follow, along
with necrophilia. Who's to judge? The ten commandments themselves have
been silenced, and even mocked, and are now being taken down as a set
of guidelines which once demarcated American law. The new laws are more
and more Marxist in their origins, and intentions. Meanwhile, the
Christian churches are mysteriously silent on many issues of great
concern. Jesus never had a wife. It took Martin Luther to open up the
idea that it was possible for a priest to have a wife. Many mainline
churches allowed women to be ordained in the 1970s following the sexual
revolution of the 1960s. The Catholics are slowly giving ground on that
topic, but not much. Homosexual ordination is now allowed in some
denominations, but is intensely fought in others. When tradition gives
way to progress, many feel that the tradition has been destroyed. Many
people will scream I should shut up about this, as it makes them
nervous. But it's obvious that something momentous has occurred in the
ELCA, and it's weird to watch since I grew up in the Lutheran church,
and its strange to watch it disintegrate and fragment while many who are
against the new rules are silenced. Here is an article I found on El
Cid's blog, that I present for the elucidation of some of the facts on
the ground:
ELCA Follows Episcopal Slide to Oblivion
Evangelical
Lutheran Church Follows Episcopal Church in Gadarene Slide to Oblivion
As in the Episcopal Church there is still and always will be a faithful
remnant in the ELCA
Five Congregations leave ELCA every week. Lutheran Congregations that leave can keep properties
By Robert Luther
Special to Virtueonline
http://www.virtueonline.org/
March 2, 2012
The
ecclesiastical realignment that has been going on in North America over
the last decade has not been confined to Anglicanism.
Since
August, 2009, when the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America's
Churchwide Assembly voted to allow congregations that choose to do so to
recognize same gender unions and accept those who have entered into
such unions to serve as rostered leaders (pastors, deacons, chaplains,
etc.), the resulting schism in the ELCA has been devastating.
The
ELCA was formed in 1987 by a merger of three Lutheran denominations
that combined to form one ecclesiastical adjudicatory that promptly went
down the same revisionist path as the Episcopal Church, sadly but
predictably bringing the same results. Membership started a slow decline
so that by 2008 the ELCA had lost over 12 percent of its membership and
737 congregations, all this while the population of the United States
was booming.
Then in 2009 things got worse. While the befuddled
revisionists celebrated their muddled gospel of inclusion, affirmation
and social justice, many of the faithful shook the dust off their feet
and gathered in Columbus, Ohio a year later to start a new Lutheran
denomination called the North American Lutheran Church (NALC). As Edmund
Burke wrote, "There is a limit at which forbearance ceases to be a
virtue."
Others left for Lutheran Congregations in Mission for
Christ (LCMC) or the American Association of Lutheran Churches (AALC).
LCMC has 772 member congregations, with 683 of those in the US; however,
some of these congregations also maintain membership in the ELCA.
The
result has been a schism that has been much faster and deeper than that
in the Episcopal Church. Why is that so? because ELCA congregations can
disaffiliate from the ELCA and keep their property. It takes two, two
thirds majority congregational votes ninety days apart and they can
leave with their property and join the Lutheran denomination of their
choice.
No lawsuits, no clergy deposed, no pack of wolves trying
to take property from those who paid for it and for which the synod
would have no use; an altogether civilized and gracious way to treat
those leaving.
In the 2009 - 2010 period alone the ELCA lost
nearly 8 percent of its membership and 388 congregations, with most of
these congregations moving to other jurisdictions and some closing.
It's
also likely that additional thousands of church members quietly left
their liberal congregations without a word, in typical Lutheran
humility, but are still being counted as members on the rolls. Many of
these folks headed straight for the local Lutheran Church Missouri Synod
congregation, where the Holy Scriptures are still faithfully preached
and taught.
2011 numbers are not yet available but they will be
just as bad. Over the last year an average of 5 congregations each week
have been leaving the ELCA to join the North American Lutheran Church,
and after only a year and a half well over 300 congregations have taken
this step.
One would think that the leadership of the ELCA would
have looked at what happened to the Episcopal Church and decided there
is no way they could all join hands, drink the same Kool-Aid and then
jump off the same cliff into oblivion, but amazingly and regrettably
that was not the case. This writer will leave it to the psychologists
and other deep thinkers among you to try to fathom why.
As in
the Episcopal Church, there is still and always will be a faithful
remnant in the ELCA but as so many of the faithful have left, this group
will have less and less influence, be more and more marginalized and
most likely will find their presence more and more difficult; however,
the Lord always has a purpose for the faithful and prophetic voice
crying out in the wilderness, and some will always feel called to the
lonely ministry of the scorned prophet.
May God comfort and
strengthen them. One can't help but wonder what the similarities between
the Anglican Church of North America and the North American Lutheran
Church may lead to. Anglican and Lutheran theology are very similar and
there has been a substantial and visible presence of Anglican purple
shirts at both convocations of the NALC.
It's also pretty clear
that the realignment in North American Protestantism over the last
decade has not been along denominational lines but along the lines of
those who are orthodox in matters of faith and morals as opposed to
those who have adopted the values of a secular and increasingly pagan
culture.
This leaves the ACNA and NALC with a lot in common. One
thing is very clear: these two churches have a lot more in common with
each other than they do with the churches from which they disaffiliated.
Democracy changed the ELCA. They let the voting constituency become
66.6% laity, and the votes went 666 for ordination. I wish only pastors
could vote. You have to really study these questions deeply, which
means knowing the original languages, etc.
It's like letting students give themselves their own grades.
A hierarchy is a good thing. A lowerarchy is a pain.
The
problem is that all the authority is going out of scripture as people
rewrite it, and reconfigure it, marginalizing Paul, marginalizing the
OT, and pushing the sermon on the mount as the only part of scriptrue
that matters.
The universities are gonzo. the government is gonzo. Families are gonzo. all that's left are a few denominations.
Maybe these people are just going to other congregations, other
denominations. I would assume that would be the case. We ourselves are
a motley crue -- former Catholics, Methodists, Congregationalists, and
what have you. We have a good pastor and a fine building. Build it and
they will come.
Undermine it, and they will flee, taking their money with them.Certainly many of the younger people are leaving the fold. But if the
contributions which were at 88 million in 2008 are down to 40 million in
2011, something else besides normal attrition has taken place
No drop in Missouri Synod versus 23% for ELCA is still significant. The
numbers I read were 88 to 40 but it was in a partisan pamphlet without a
citation. I don't know where these numbers can be found, and whether
they are bound to be legally responsible for getting them right.
I'm
not sure how this whole thing works in economic terms. Those who have
lost jobs of course have less to contribute, and the numbers have
doubled to about ten percent in some places, a bit more or a bit less in
others. For those who've kept their jobs, they should be able to
contribute the same amount.
With the rise of secular institutions came a revival of Greek paganism
within classical scholarship. German Romanticism gave rise to a renewed
cult of paganism with the Schlegels and Schleiermachers and others
trumpeting the ancient Greeks as the truest culture, then giving rise to
Nietzsche and further on Jung and others arguing that the Greek gods
were a system of archetypal mayhem that underwrit the truest images of
humanity. Zeus the rapist and Dionysos the rapist and Hades the
abductor became the new images of mankind and Christianity was thought
to be a farce.
Now you have so many people pointing back and
saying but this culture allowed that, and that culture allowed this,
Christianity is so restrictive, let's get all pagan and put on parades
like they did i ancient Rome where all hell broke loose.
And then
all hell did break loose, but America put a stop to it. We not only
shut the Germans up, but the Russians, and the Japanese.
But in
doing so we caught some of it. The younger people began to get
interested in Zen, which represents a total absence of values. And in
communism, which represents a total absence of values. And in Nietzsche,
which represents a total reversal of all values.
And all these
negations now creep through the churches unbeknownst even to those who
are supposedly the gatekeepers. I alone can stop all this.
Wednesday, September 11, 2013
Tuesday, September 10, 2013
DVD/Bluray collection
1 Apocalypse Now 8.5 1979
2 Avatar 8 2009
3 A Bridge Too Far 7.4 1977
4 A Streetcar Named Desire 8.1 1951
5 Alien 8.5 1979
6 Aliens 8.5 1986
7 Alien³ 6.4 1992
8 AVP: Alien vs. Predator 5.5 2004
9 Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem 4.7 2007
10 An American Werewolf in London 7.6 1981
11 Band of Brothers 9.6 2001
12 complete series boxset Battlestar Galactica 8.8 2004
13 Battlestar Galactica 8.6 2003
14 Black Rain 6.6 1989
15 Blade Runner 8.3 1982
16 Dracula 7.5 1992
17 The Brides of Dracula 6.9 1960
18 complete series boxset Centennial 8.4 1978
19 Collateral 7.6 2004
20 Curse of the Demon 7.7 1957
21 Daybreakers 6.5 2009
22 The Deer Hunter 8.2 1978
23 Defiance 7.2 2008
24 Dirty Harry 7.8 1971
25 The Dirty Dozen 7.8 1967
26 Horror of Dracula 7.5 1958
27 Dracula 6.4 1979
28 Dracula Has Risen from the Grave 6.5 1968
29 Dracula A.D. 1972 5.8 1972
30 Dracula: Prince of Darkness 6.7 1966
31 East of Eden 8.1 1955
32 Enemy at the Gates 7.6 2001
33 Firefox 5.8 1982
34 Flags of Our Fathers 7.1 2006
35 Fright Night 7.1 1985
36 Fright Night 6.4 2011
37 The Godfather 9.2 1972
38 The Godfather: Part II 9.1 1974
39 The Godfather: Part III 7.6 1990
40 Halloween 7.9 1978
41 Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix 7.4 2007
42 Hide and Seek 5.9 2005
43 How the West Was Won 7.1 1962
44 Independence Day 6.9 1996
45 Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom 7.6 1984
46 Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade 8.3 1989
47 Raiders of the Lost Ark 8.6 1981
48 Inception 8.8 2010
49 Interview with the Vampire: The Vampire Chronicles 7.6 1994
50 Iron Man 2 7.1 2010
51 It's a Wonderful Life 8.7 1946
52 Jonny Quest 8 1964
53 Jurassic Park 8 1993
54 Kelly's Heroes 7.7 1970
55 The War 8.9 2007
56 The Civil War 9.4 1990
57 Lawrence of Arabia 8.4 1962
58 Live Free or Die Hard 7.3 2007
59 The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring 8.9 2001
60 The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King 8.9 2003
61 The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers 8.8 2002
62 Dr. No 7.3 1962
63 Goldfinger 7.8 1964
64 From Russia with Love 7.5 1963
65 Magnum Force 7.2 1973
66 The Matrix Reloaded 7.2 2003
67 The Matrix Revolutions 6.7 2003
68 Marley & Me 7.1 2008
69 Men of Honor 7.1 2000
70 This Is It 7.3 2009
71 Minority Report 7.7 2002
72 Mirrors 6.2 2008
73 Mr. Deeds 5.8 2002
74 Monty Python's Flying Circus 9 1969
75 The Mummy 7 1999
76 The Mummy Returns 6.3 2001
77 The Mummy: Tomb of the Dragon Emperor 5.2 2008
78 My Fair Lady 7.9 1964
79 Christmas Vacation 7.5 1989
80 Pale Rider 7.3 1985
81 The Private Life of Sherlock Holmes 7.3 1970
82 Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl 8.1 2003
83 Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest 7.3 2006
84 Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End 7.1 2007
85 Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides 6.7 2011
86 Rebel Without a Cause 7.8 1955
87 The Satanic Rites of Dracula 5.5 1973
88 Saving Private Ryan 8.6 1998
89 Scars of Dracula 6.3 1970
90 Seabiscuit 7.4 2003
91 Sherlock Holmes 7.6 2009
92 Sherlock Holmes and the Leading Lady 6 1991
93 The Pearl of Death 7.5 1944
94 Sherlock Holmes' Fatal Hour 5.8 1931
95 Sherlock Holmes and the Secret Weapon 6.8 1942
96 Sherlock Holmes and the Voice of Terror 6.8 1942
97 The Woman in Green 6.9 1945
98 Sherlock Holmes Faces Death 7.3 1943
99 Shutter Island 8.1 2010
100 Sleepy Hollow 7.5 1999
101 seasons 1 -4 Space Ghost Coast to Coast 8.1 1994
102 Spider-Man 7.3 2002
103 Spider-Man 2 7.4 2004
104 Spider-Man 3 6.3 2007
105 The Sopranos 9.3 1999
106 complete series boxset Star Trek 8.4 1966
107 Star Trek 8.1 2009
108 Star Trek: The Motion Picture 6.3 1979
109 complete series boxset Star Trek: The Next Generation 8.7 1987
110 complete series boxset (2011 PAL) Star Trek: Voyager 7.7 1995
111 Star Trek: First Contact 7.6 1996
112 Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan 7.8 1982
113 Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home 7.3 1986
114 Star Trek: Generations 6.5 1994
115 Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country 7.2 1991
116 Star Trek III: The Search for Spock 6.6 1984
117 Star Trek V: The Final Frontier 5.3 1989
118 Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace 6.6 1999
119 Star Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Clones 6.8 2002
120 Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith 7.7 2005
121 Star Wars 8.7 1977
122 Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back 8.8 1980
123 Star Wars: Episode VI - Return of the Jedi 8.4 1983
124 It 6.9 1990
125 State of Play 7.1 2009
126 Rose Red 6.7 2002
127 Silver Bullet 6.3 1985
128 Sudden Impact 6.6 1983
129 Taken 7.9 2008
130 Taste the Blood of Dracula 6.3 1970
131 The Terminator 8.1 1984
132 Terminator 2: Judgment Day 8.5 1991
133 Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines 6.4 2003
134 TRON: Legacy 6.9 2010
135 True Grit 7.7 2010
136 The Blue and the Gray 7.7 1982
137 The Bourne Supremacy 7.8 2004
138 The Changeling 7.3 1980
139 The Changeling 6.9 2006
140 The Diary of Ellen Rimbauer 5.5 2003
141 The Enforcer 6.7 1976
142 The Exorcist 8 1973
143 The Final Countdown 6.7 1980
144 The Hound of the Baskervilles 7.7 1939
145 The Hound of the Baskervilles 7 1959
146 The Hustler 8.1 1961
147 The King's Speech 8.1 2010
148 The Legend of the 7 Golden Vampires 6 1974
149 The Long, Hot Summer 7.4 1958
150 The Good, the Bad and the Ugly 9 1966
151 Fistful of Dollars 8.1 1964
152 For a Few Dollars More 8.4 1965
153 North and South 8.1 1985
154 The Pacific 8.3 2010
155 The Phantom of the Opera 7.4 2004
156 Pride & Prejudice 7.8 2005
157 The Thing 8.2 1982
158 The Thin Red Line 7.6 1998
159 The Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada 7.5 2005
160 The Verdict 7.8 1982
161 They Were Expendable 7.4 1945
162 To Kill a Mockingbird 8.4 1962
163 all 7 seasons Trailer Park Boys 8.5 2001
164 complete series boxset The Wire 9.4 2002
165 Unforgiven 8.3 1992
166 Valkyrie 7.1 2008
167 Von Ryan's Express 7.1 1965
168 complete series boxset War and Remembrance 8.3 1988
169 War of the Worlds 6.5 2005
170 White Christmas 7.6 1954
171 Holiday Inn 7.6 1942
172 Without a Clue 7 1988
173 complete series boxset The Winds of War 8.2 1983
174 complete series boxset The X-Files 8.8 1993
175 X-Men 7.4 2000
176 X-Men: The Last Stand 6.8 2006
177 X2 7.5 2003
178 X-Men: First Class 7.8 2011
179 X-Men Origins: Wolverine 6.8 2009
180 Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb 8.6 1964
181 Doctor Zhivago 8 1965
182 The Wolfman 5.8 2010
183 Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix 7.4 2007
184 Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Part 2 8.1 2011
185 Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Part 1 7.7 2010
186 Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince 7.5 2009
187 Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban 7.8 2004
188 Angels & Demons 6.7 2009
189 Transformers 7.2 2007
190 Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen 6 2009
191 Transformers: Dark of the Moon 6.4 2011
192 Once Upon a Time in the West 8.7 1968
193 From Here to Eternity 7.8 1953
194 The Sum of All Fears 6.4 2002
195 The Hunt for Red October 7.6 1990
196 Patriot Games 6.9 1992
197 Seasons 1 - 8 boxsets The Simpsons 9 1989
198 Clear and Present Danger 6.9 1994
199 There are 6 boxsets of Poirot I own. All movies. Agatha Christie's Poirot 8.6 1989
200 Van Helsing 5.9 2004
201 Hanna 6.8 2011
202 Jesse Stone: Stone Cold 7.2 2005
203 Jesse Stone: Death in Paradise 7.1 2006
204 Jesse Stone: Night Passage 7.2 2006
205 Jesse Stone: No Remorse 7.2 2010
206 Jesse Stone: Innocents Lost 6.9 2011
207 complete series The X-Files 8.8 1993
208 The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo 7.9 2011
209 complete series The Sopranos 9.3 1999
210 Fast Five 7.3 2011
211 The Fast and the Furious 6.6 2001
212 2 Fast 2 Furious 5.7 2003
213 Fast & Furious 6.6 2009
214 seasons 1 and 2 Sherlock 9.3 2010
215 Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows 7.5 2011
216 The Big Trail 7.3 1930
217 Red River 7.8 1948
218 Legend of the Lost 6 1957
219 The Barbarian and the Geisha 5.6 1958
220 The Horse Soldiers 7.2 1959
221 The Alamo 6.9 1960
222 North to Alaska 7 1960
223 The Comancheros 6.8 1961
224 The Longest Day 7.8 1962
225 The Undefeated 6.6 1969
226 12 Angry Men 8.9 1957
227 Pride and Prejudice 9.2 1995
228 The Prestige 8.5 2006
229 Bend of the River 7.4 1952
230 The Far Country 7.3 1954
231 Night Passage 6.7 1957
232 The Rare Breed 6.4 1966
233 Singin' in the Rain 8.4 1952
234 Mark of the Vampire 6.3 1935
235 The Haunted Palace 6.8 1963
236 Dracula 7.7 1931
237 Dracula's Daughter 6.4 1936
238 Son of Dracula 6.2 1943
239 House of Dracula 5.7 1945
240 The Bride of Frankenstein 7.9 1935
241 Son of Frankenstein 7.2 1939
242 The Ghost of Frankenstein 6.1 1942
243 Dead of Night 7.7 1945
244 12 Angry Men 8.9 1957
245 Batman Begins 8.3 2005
246 Kelly's Heroes 7.7 1970
247 The Dirty Dozen 7.8 1967
248 The Fog 6.8 1980
249 Bud Abbott Lou Costello Meet Frankenstein 7.6 1948
250 The Last Man on Earth 6.9 1964
251 seasons 1 & 2 Game of Thrones 9.5 2011
252 Swingers 7.4 1996
253 Skyfall 7.8 2012
254 Red vs Blue: Recollection Trilogy 8.7 2008
255 Red vs. Blue: Recreation 8.4 2009
256 Red vs. Blue: Revelation 8.4 2010
257 Red vs. Blue: Reconstruction 8.4 2008
258 Red vs. Blue: Season 10 7.6 2012
259 Red vs. Blue Season 9 8 2011
260 Red vs. Blue: The Blood Gulch Chronicles 8.6 2003
261 The Best Years of Our Lives 8.3 1946
262 the complete series (release 11/20/2012) Mighty Morphin Power Rangers 6.2 1993
263 The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey 8.1 2012
264 the complete series Star Trek: Deep Space Nine 7.9 1993
265 Count Dracula 5.8 1970
266 Battle of the Bulge 6.8 1965
267 Starship Troopers 7.2 1997
268 The Last Stand 6.4 2013
269 The Eiger Sanction 6.3 1975
270 Coogan's Bluff 6.5 1968
271 Where Eagles Dare 7.7 1968
272 Lincoln 7.5 2012
273 Star Trek Into Darkness 7.9 2013
274 Iron Man 7.9 2008
275 Iron Man 3 7.4 2013
276 complete series boxset Power Rangers Zeo 6.4 1996
277 complete series boxset Power Rangers Turbo 5.6 1997
278 complete series boxset Power Rangers in Space 7 1998
279 complete series boxset Power Rangers Lost Galaxy 6.6 1999
280 The Seventh Victim 7 1943
281 The Raven 6.7 1963
282 Diary of a Madman 6.4 1963
283 Tower of London 6.3 1962
284 House of Usher 7.1 1960
285 The Looney Tunes Show 7.8 2011
286 Hugo 7.6 2011
287 Good Will Hunting 8.2 1997
288 All Quiet on the Western Front 7.1 1979
289 The Great Raid 6.7 2005
290 The Sea Wolves 6.3 1980
291 The Bridge at Remagen 6.7 1969
292 Between Heaven and Hell 6.6 1956
293 So Proudly We Hail! 7.6 1943
294 Battle of the Coral Sea 5.8 1959
295 To the Shores of Tripoli 6.1 1942
296 Once an Eagle 7.7 1976
297 Twelve O'Clock High 7.8 1949
298 The Conjuring 7.6 2013
299 Power Rangers Wild Force 5.8 2002
300 Power Rangers Lightspeed Rescue 6.1 2000
301 Power Rangers Time Force 6.5 2001
302 Power Rangers Ninja Storm 5.9 2003
303 Power Rangers DinoThunder 6.1 2004
304 The Frozen Ground 6.4 2013
305 Great Performances: Count Dracula 7.8 1971
306 The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug 8.1 2013
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