The House Oversight Committee Hearing on "Influence
Peddling: Examining Joe Biden’s Abuse of Public Office" from Wednesday
was dominated by key moments, especially when it comes to witness Tony
Bobulinski. In his opening statement,
Bobulinski testified that Hunter Biden perjured himself. He also
mentioned repeatedly throughout the hearing how the Bidens lied.
It wasn't just Hunter who perjured himself, Bobulinski said, but so
did President Joe Biden's brother, Jim Biden, when it comes to
involvement with Chinese-linked company CEFC.
Bobulinski said he
had "met with Joe Biden, Hunter Biden and Jim Biden at the Beverly
Hilton in May 2017," which Hunter acknowledged but Jim denied took
place. With passion, Bobulinski emphasized that "Hunter Biden, in his
own transcribed interview, confirmed that that meeting took place,"
adding "Hunter confirmed his uncle perjured himself in front of this
Committee."
"The Committee was so shocked by his perjury that they
asked him the same question multiple times," Bobulinski also shared.
"Each time he denied meeting with me and Joe Biden, after the Committee
showed him text messages confirming that." Matt Margolis at our sister
site of PJ Media highlighted how Bobulinski "has receipts."
Bobulinski
also noted that James Biden "lied extensively throughout his
transcribed interview on February 21, and perjured himself." The New
York Post has put out an explainer of remarks made by the president's brother and Bobulinski.
Jason Galanis,
another one of Hunter's former business partners, who is serving prison
time and was testifying via Zoom, also addressed such lies.
Hunter could not address these claims in real time, as he was not there, despite how he had asked for such a public hearing. When announcing
he intended to have a public hearing, not long after Hunter gave
testimony, Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer (R-KY) spoke of an
interest in such a hearing because of "some contradictory statements"
from other witnesses that the chairman said "I think need further
review."
Bobulinski's accusations about Hunter lying also came up when he was
questioned by Rep. Lisa McClain (R-MI). When answering as to why he
thought Hunter didn't show up despite saying he wanted a public hearing,
Bobulinski offered "I don't think he wanted to sit next to me, because
obviously I've emphatically stated he perjured himself in his
transcribed interview with the committee as did his uncle, Jim Biden.
And for every fact he claims or wants to say 'I was high on drugs' or
obfuscate, I can show a document, a text message, a recording, that has
cross confirmed that he's lying."
He and the congresswoman agreed it was "highly disappointing" that Hunter didn't show up.
Another
lie was brought up during Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene's (R-GA) turn to
ask questions, as the congresswoman reminded that Biden has continuously
lied about his son's business dealings, including as a candidate on the
debate stage in 2020 when he said his family didn't take money from
China.
"Not only was it a lie, he knew it was a lie. He knew it because he met with his son Hunter Biden's Chinese business associates," Greene reminded, which is when she discussed CEFC with Bobulinski.
Although
WhatsApp messages showed that Hunter had tried to refer to Chinese
businessmen as "chairman," Bobulinski was emphatic that that was not the
case. Rather "the chairman" referred to Joe Biden. Another message did
not refer to any of the Chinese businessmen as the "chairman;" it just
said "the Chinese."
Greene also tellingly pointed out that it was 2016 when Biden said he
was going to run for president in 2020, and that he went on to have
such shady involvement in 2017, "when everybody knew he was planning to
be President of the United States." Bobulinski responded that was indeed
"a serious problem," and expressed he wished the Committee would
investigate further.
Rep.
Nancy Mace (R-SC) questioned Galanis and Bobulinski to confirm that Joe
Biden indeed "participate[d] in phone conversations and meetings with
Hunter Biden, his business associates, and foreign interests."
She
also confirmed from Galanis that Biden was a "certain relation" that
Hunter spoke of to other business members, with Galanis and Bobulinski
also both confirming they were not to bring up Joe Biden's name in
communications.
The congresswoman reminded that during his
deposition, Hunter said he did not involve his father in his business,
receiving answers in the affirmative from Bobulinski that "Hunter Biden
lie[d] under oath," as well as that "Joe Biden [is] lying when he says
he did not interact with Hunter Biden, Jim Biden, their business
partners or foreign interests."
Mace also brought up the same
debate moment that Greene did, with Biden claiming his family did not
make money from the Chinese, though Bobulinski and Galanis answered that
he did.
"Joe Biden has repeatedly claimed that he was
not involved in Hunter Biden, Jim Biden or any other Biden family
business deals," Mace summarized. "Today our witnesses have proved
otherwise. Today we've established Joe Biden lied about interacting with
Hunter Biden's business associates. It is my belief Joe Biden is the
closer for Hunter Biden, Jim Biden, and their business associates in
foreign interests. Good luck to the left proving otherwise," she said
before yielding.
Rep. Lauren Boebert (R-CO) also received some telling answers from Bobulinski and Galanis.
When
questioning Bobulinski, Boebert brought up the idea of Joe Biden being
the chairman, with the witness offering that Biden played "a more active
role," especially as "he acted sort of like a chairman" in that "he
showed up and shook hands," with the congresswoman interjecting to
remind "he's been called the chairman." Bobulinski pointed out "that's
all the Chinese Ukrainians, Romanians, Russians" needed, which is not
what "the Canadians, the Australians and Americans need, but in those
parts of the world, that's what they need."
Galanis also
reaffirmed to Boebert that Biden indeed lied while running for president
when he said his family did not make any money from China.
Rep.
Russell Fry (R-SC) also highlighted Hunter and James Biden's lies, as
he and Bobulinski fact-checked key points from each of the Biden family
member's transcribed testimony.
Hunter couldn't even get correct
when he worked for CEFC, Bobulinski explained, since he tried to "parse
words" when referring to his "official" capacity. While Hunter gave the
year 2017, Bobulinski offered that Hunter started working for CEFC in
the fall of 2015 and worked for them throughout 2016 as well, which was
confirmed by Hunter himself as well as other conversations with other
former associates.
Fry also brought up how Hunter was asked about his father never
interacting with his business associates, which Bobulinski confirmed
"was a lie."
"Hunter lied to the committee about important details concerning his money demands and threats and CEFC, based
on this WhatsApp message," as Fry reminded, which Bobulinski confirmed,
as well as how Joe Biden had no awareness of the business he was doing,
as Hunter tried to claim.
It wasn't just Hunter
who lied, but Jim Biden as well, which Bobulinski was particularly
passionate about when discussing. In response to Jim Biden claiming in
his own testimony that he had "absolutely not" remembered a meeting with
Hunter, Bobulinski, and Joe Biden, Bobulinski insisted "that is a
lie."
"I'm shocked that his lawyers sitting next to him, a former
US Attorney allowed him to say that like three different times in that
transcribed interview," he added, with Fry also reminding "when pressed,
[James] continued to double down on" that point.
Rep.
Matt Gaetz (R-FL), who serves as a member of the House Judiciary
Committee, which is also investigating the Bidens, was allowed to appear
at the hearing and ask questions as well.
The congressman read
testimony from Hunter claiming that his business associates, including
Galanis, had no expectation from him that his father would get involved
in their business dealings. Hunter even claimed "there was never a
single time" he could remember indicating as much.
In reaction, Galanis, in light of his explanations of what the "the Biden lift" was, during as well as before the hearing, called it "patently false" and "an untruthful statement."
Gaetz
also spoke with Galanis about how he is a living example of how "the
Biden Justice Department retaliates against people who speak out against
the Bidens and their crimes." Galanis also added "there is
unquestionably a pattern of two tiers of justice."
Such
moments are just some takeaways from the nearly eight hour hearing, yet
as NewsBusters' Tim Graham highlighted, the mainstream media hardly
paid the hearing any mind.
As the hearing came to a close, Comer announced that he would be inviting the president himself, especially to square away the contradictions.
The
committees do not look to be done investigating the Biden crime family,
though. House Judiciary Chairman Jim Jordan (R-OH) and Comer are looking for more information as to how the CIA stonewalled an interview with Kevin Morris, an associate of Hunter Biden. Jordan has also subpoenaed Joe Biden's ghostwriter to appear before his Committee.